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W. dRjyj Avjg
Kov Avjvc bv‡g GKwU Abyôvb K‡ib P¨v‡bj AvB‡q|
†Kv‡bv †Kv‡bv Abyôvb cvq c~Y©v½ AvÇvi †gRvR|
GiKgB GKwU AvÇvi weeiY cvVK‡`i Rb¨ Zz‡j †`qv
n‡jv|
W. dRjyj Avjg : GKz‡ki eB‡gjv GK Abb¨mvaviY
Drme| evsjv‡`‡ki evB‡iI Gai‡bi Drme Av‡qvR‡bi
cÖ‡Póv †bqv n‡”Q| gy³avivi c‡¶ wek¦wRZ mvnv
wbDBq‡K© evsjv Drm‡ei Av‡qvRK| GeQi wZwb
18Zg evsjv Drme I eB‡gjvi Av‡qvRb Ki‡Qb| AvR‡Ki
AvÇvq Av‡iv Dcw¯’Z Av‡Qb Kwe, m¤úv`K I mgv‡jvPK
gvi“d ivqnvb Ges cÖKvkK gwbi“j nK|
wek¦wRZ mvnv, Avcbvi evsjv Drm‡ei K_v ejyb|
wek¦wRZ mvnv : Avm‡j Avgvi GKvi Drme †Zv GUv
bq| DËi Av‡gwiKvi evOvwj, †jLK, wewfbœ mvs¯‹…wZK
msMV‡bi e¨w³eM©Ñ mK‡ji mw¤§wjZ kª‡gi dmj GB
Drme I eB‡gjv| eB‡gjv‡K wN‡i †jLK-cvVK †Mvwô
M‡o D‡V‡Q| wbDBq‡K© 6-7wU MÖš’ wecYb †K›`ª
M‡o D‡V‡Q| gy³aviv ïi“ Ki‡jI GLb KzwoR‡bi g‡Zv
gvbyl Kg©ms¯’vb Ki‡Qb GB eB‡K wN‡iB|
gvi“d ivqnvb : wek¦wRZ, ILv‡b †Kv‡bv cÖKvkbv
cÖwZôvb M‡o D‡V‡Q Avgv‡`i †`‡ki evOvwj‡`i
g‡a¨? †KD bZzb eB †ei K‡ib?
wek¦wRZ : bv, Av‡gwiKvq evOvwj †Kv‡bv cÖKvkK
†bB| Z‡e †mLv‡b †Kv‡bv †Kv‡bv †jL‡Ki GK-‡`o
nvRvi eB wewµ nq| Avgiv Bs‡iwR wKQy eB †ei
K‡iwQ bZzb cÖR‡b¥i cvVK‡`i R‡b¨|
gvi“d : wbDBq‡K©i eB‡gjv Dcj‡¶ Avcbviv bZzb
†Kv‡bv eB cÖKvk K‡ib wKbv|
wek¦wRZ : Avgiv Drme Dcj‡¶ w_gwbf©i ¯§viKMÖš’
cÖKvk K‡iwQ|
gwbi“j nK : gvi“d fvB‡qi cÖ‡kœi m~Î a‡i ewj,
Av‡gwiKvq evsjv eB cÖKvk Kiv †ek KwVb| Z‡e
GiKg Drme I eB‡gjv n‡j †mLvbKvi evOvwj cvVK‡`i
my‡hvM N‡U evsjv eB †`Lvi I †Kbvi| Avwg Awf‡hvM
AvKv‡iB ej‡ev †h, wek¦wRZ mvnv †h †gjvi Av‡qvRb
K‡ib Zv Av‡iv fv‡jvfv‡e n‡Z cv‡i| KvR¸‡jv‡K
fvM K‡i †bqv `iKvi| `yB w`‡bi GB †gjv Av‡iv
cwi”Qbœ nIqv DwPZ|
W. Avjg : gwbi“j nK, Avcwb wK Ggb †Kv‡bv
cÖKvkbv Ki‡Z cv‡ib hv DËi Av‡gwiKvi evOvwj
cvV‡Ki cÖ‡qvRb †gUv‡Z cv‡i?
gwbi“j : cvV‡Ki cÖ‡qvRb †gUv‡Z cv‡i Ggb eBB
†Zv Avgiv †ei K‡i _vwK|
W. Avjg : †mLv‡b eB‡qi wecYb I weZi‡Yi fvi
wek¦wRZ mvnv wb‡Z cv‡ib|
gvi“d : ILvbKvi cvVK‡`i Pvwn`vi welqwU gv_vq
†i‡L bZzb eB cÖKvk Kiv †h‡Z cv‡i| †mUv evsjv‡`‡kB
n‡Z cv‡i, Zvici Av‡gwiKvq cvVv‡bv n‡jv|
wØZxqZ evsjv eB‡gjvq †mLvbKvi ¯’vbxq, gv‡b
Av‡gwiKvb‡`i wKfv‡e AskMÖnY Kiv‡bv hvq †mUvI
†evanq †f‡e †`Lv †h‡Z cv‡i| Bs‡iwRi gva¨‡gB
†mUv Ki‡Z n‡e, Avgv‡`i †`‡ki eB Bs‡iwR‡Z
Ab~w`Z n‡q wbDBq‡K©i eB‡gjvq †M‡j wbDBq‡K©i
¯’vbxq evwm›`viv evsjv‡`‡ki mvwnZ¨ I ms¯‹…wZi
cÖwZ AvMÖnx n‡q DV‡Z cv‡i| we‡`‡k †Kv‡bv
evsjv †gjv ev Drme n‡j GB Avš—R©vwZKZvi my‡hvMwU
Aek¨B MÖnY Kiv †h‡Z cv‡i|
wek¦wRZ : PgrKvi e‡j‡Qb Avcwb| Avcbvi DÌvwcZ
cÖkœ wb‡q Avwg ejwQ, GeQi Avgv‡`i evsjv
mvwnZ¨‡K we‡`‡k cwiwPZ Kiv‡bvi j‡¶¨ `k MíKv‡ii
†miv 10wU Mí wb‡q Bs‡iwR‡Z GKwU Abyev` msKjb
†ei KiwQ| GB Mí¸‡jv Av‡M Abyev` nqwb|
W. Avjg : Avwg weª‡U‡b j¶¨ K‡iwQ †h weªwUk
Zi“Y-Zi“Yxiv A‡bK mgq evsjv‡`k m¤ú‡K© mg¨K
aviYv jv‡fi Rb¨ Bs‡iwRZ Ab~w`Z evsjv‡`‡ki eB
Luy‡R †eovq| wKš‘ cvq bv| wew”Qbœfv‡e cvq
e¨w³MZfv‡e †jL‡Kiv eB wb‡q †M‡j| Avgvi g‡b
nq †`‡k GKUv KwgwU n‡Z cv‡i hvi KvR n‡e we‡k¦i
wewfbœ †`‡k evsjv‡`‡ki cÖKvkbv m¤ú‡K© Rvbv‡bv,
Gi d‡j Pvwn`v ˆZwi n‡Z cv‡i|
gwbi“j : evsjv eB‡qi K`i evo‡Q| weª‡U‡bi
cvVvMvi¸‡jv Avgv‡`i evsjv eB †K‡b| Av‡gwiKvq
Aek¨ wKQy wKQy hvq| ev‡d‡jv‡Z †`Ljvg, Avgv‡`i
eB‡qi Rb¨ msiw¶Z i¨vKwU k~b¨| †mLv‡b †Kv‡bv
eB †bB| wR‡Ám K‡i Rvbjvg †h, Zv‡`i †KD eB †`qwb
e‡j i¨vKwU Lvwj c‡o Av‡Q| Avgv‡`i gva¨‡gB
Av‡gwiKvq eB hvq| MZ `yB eQ‡i Lye GKUv eB
hvqwb Av‡gwiKvq|
W. Avjg : weª‡U‡b cvewjK jvB‡eªwi¸‡jv wfbœ
wfbœ wel‡qi Ici cÖKvwkZ eB wK‡b _v‡K| |
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wek¦wRZ :
wbDBq‡K© 40 Uv jvB‡eªwi Av‡Q| Gi me¸‡jv‡Z
evsjv eB Av‡Q| Giv c×wZMZfv‡e eB †K‡b|
welqwU †ek RwUj|
W. Avjg : Iiv wK A¨vcÖ“fvj Kwc Pvq? bvwK
weewjIMÖvwdK¨vj wj÷ Pvq? weª‡U‡b iƒcmx evsjv
weªwUk jvB‡eªwii m‡½ †hvMv‡hvM K‡i evsjv eB‡qi
weewjIMÖvwdK¨vj wj÷ †`q Ges jvB‡eªwi KZ©„c¶
wUK gvK© w`‡q eB cQ›` K‡i| Av‡gwiKvq GB
e¨e¯’vUv †bB| Avgv‡`i †`‡k weewjIMÖvwdK¨vj
wj‡÷i e¨vcv‡i gvi“d ivqnv‡bi GKUv AwfÁZv
Av‡Q| evsjv‡`‡k cÖKvkKiv wb‡Ri wb‡Ri
cwiKíbvg‡Zv eB †ei K‡ib| †mme eB‡qi †UvUvj
GKUv ZvwjKv Lye Ri“wi| gvi“d ivqnvb cÖwZ eB‡gjvq
ÔGKz‡ki msKjbÕ bv‡g GKwU cwÎKv K‡ib Ges †mLv‡b
ÔeB‡gjv †µvocÎÕ As‡k †gvUvgywUfv‡e bZzb eB‡qi
GKwU ZvwjKv Qvcv‡bv nq|
gvi“d : Aek¨ †mUv c~Y©v½ bq, Avwg †Póv KiwQ
gvÎ| Z‡e AvR‡Ki GB Av‡jvPbvq K‡qKUv c‡q›U
Zzj‡Z PvB| cÖ_gZ, Avgiv weMZ K‡qKwU †gjvq
†`‡LwQ †h cÖKvkKiv Zvi bZzb eB‡qi Z_¨ evsjv
GKv‡Wwg KZ©„c¶‡K w`‡”Qb Ges GKv‡Wwg cÖwZw`bB
m`¨cÖKvwkZ eB‡qi ZvwjKv cÖPvi Ki‡Q, Ges Zvi
Kwc MYgva¨‡g mieivn Ki‡Q| GKBm‡½ ej‡ev †h †deª“qvwii
28 ev 29 w`‡b hZ bZzb eB †e‡ivq Zvi GKwU m¤ú~Y©
ZvwjKv cyw¯—KvKv‡i cÖKvwkZ nIqv Ri“wi|
W. Avjg : evsjv GKv‡Wwgi mvaviY mfvq ejv n‡jv
ïbjvg †h `vb wn‡m‡e Zviv GZ¸‡jv eB †c‡q‡Q
Avi wK‡b‡Q Zvi PvB‡ZI KgmsL¨K eB| Avgvi †Zv
g‡b nq hZ eB †e‡ivq Zvi GKwU K‡i Kwc GKv‡Wwg‡K
†`b cÖKvk‡Kiv| KB Zvi D‡jL †Zv †`Ljvg bv|
gwbi“j nK : evsjv GKv‡Wwg cÖwZwU bZzb eB‡qi
GKwU K‡i Kwc †Kbvi Rb¨ ev‡RU Ki‡Z cv‡i| G‡Z
Kq j¶ UvKvB Avi jvM‡e| wd« eB cvIqvi Avkvq _vK‡j
Pj‡e bv| GK-`yÕnvRvi UvKv `v‡gi eB Avwg †Kb
wd« †`e GKv‡Wwg‡K|
gvi“d : j¶ UvKvi bZzb eB GKv‡Wwg wKb‡ZB cv‡i|
wKš‘ wbqgB Av‡Q AvK©vB‡fi Rb¨ miKvi‡K Avcwb
cÖwZwU bZzb eB‡qi 6 Kwc K‡i Rgv †`‡eb| Zvi
m‡½ evowZ GKwU Kwc bv nq evsjv GKv‡Wwg‡K w`‡jbB|
W. Avjg : Avgiv wbDBqK© †gjvq Avm‡Z cvwi|
gvi“d : nu¨v, †Kej wbDBqK© bq, Avwg mgMÖ we‡k¦i
†cÖ¶vc‡UB Av‡jvPbv Ki‡Z PvB| `y‡Uv K_v Lye `iKvwi|
Avgv‡`i †`‡ki fv‡jv eB ¸i“Z¡c~Y© eB ewnwe©‡k¦i
evOvwj cvV‡Ki Kv‡Q †cuŠQ‡bvi e¨e¯’v wb‡ZB
n‡e| wØZxqZ, GZKvj Avgiv wek¦mvwnZ¨ †_‡K
MÖnYB K‡iwQ| divmx mvwnZ¨, Rvg©vb mvwnZ¨,
Bs‡iwR mvwnZ¨Ñ bvbv mvwnZ¨ †_‡K Avgiv evsjvq
Abyev` K‡iwQ| GLb mgq G‡m‡Q Avgv‡`i evsjv
fvlvq cÖKvwkZ fv‡jv fv‡jv eB¸‡jv Aš—Z GKwU
fvlvq, Bs‡iwRZ Ab~w`Z n‡q wek¦i †`‡k †`‡k
Qwo‡q †`qv| GR‡b¨ GLbB we‡kl cÖKí MÖnY Ki‡Z
n‡e| Zvn‡jB we‡`‡k Avgv‡`i eB‡gjvi Av‡qvRb ¸i“Z¡c~Y©
n‡q DV‡e|
gwbi“j : Avcbvi m‡½ Avwg GKgZ| wKš‘ †mR‡b¨
miKv‡ii c„ô‡cvlKZv Av‡M `iKvi|
W. Avjg : miKvwi c„ô‡cvlKZvi A‡c¶vq _vK‡j
Avi G¸‡bv hv‡e bv| Avgv‡`i‡KB KvR Ki‡Z n‡e|
wek¦wRZ mvnv, Avcbv‡K ejwQ| AvMvgx Ry‡b
Avcwb wbDBq‡K© eB‡gjv Ki‡eb| Avgiv hw` weMZ
wZb eQ‡ii bZzb eB‡qi c~Y©v½ ZvwjKv K‡i Qvwc‡q
Avcbv‡K w`B Zvn‡j wK evsjv eB‡qi cÖPvi-cÖmvi
Kivq Avcbvi myweav n‡e?
wek¦wRZ : Aek¨B A‡bK †ewk myweav n‡e|
W. Avjg : Zvn‡j GB Kov Avjv‡ci c¶ †_‡K GLv‡b
Avwg cÖ¯—ve KiwQ gvi“d ivqnvb GB ZvwjKv Kivi
fvi Avcwb MÖnY Ki“b, Avwg me©vZ¥K mnvqZv Ki‡ev|
†mwU gwbi“j nK Qvcv‡eb Ges wek¦wRZ mvnvi g‡Zv
eB †gjv Av‡qvRbKvix I eB wecY‡b mwµq e¨w³‡`i
nv‡Z †cuЇQ †`qv n‡e|
gvi“d : MÖš’ZvwjKv Kiv Ri“wi wVKB, GKB m‡½
Ri“wi fv‡jv eB¸‡jv‡K mbv³ Kiv|
W. Avjg : †mB `vwqZ¡ Avgiv cvV‡Ki nv‡ZB bv
nq cÖv_wgKfv‡e †Q‡o †`e| Av‡M MÖš’ZvwjKvi
KvRUv Kwi| Ges †`‡k †`‡k †cuЇQ w`B|
wek¦wRZ : AvUjvw›U‡Ki Icvi †_‡K 10 w`‡bi
R‡b¨ GLv‡b G‡m me KvR Kiv hvq bv| †`‡k hviv
mwVK Kv‡Ri R‡b¨ mwVK gvbyl Av‡Qb Zviv hw`
Avš—wiKZvi m‡½ Aviva¨ KvR K‡ib Zvn‡j Avgiv
GwM‡q hve| †mR‡b¨ mw¤§wjZ D‡`¨vM `iKvi|
W. Avjg : wek¦wRZ mvnv, Avcbv‡K we‡klfv‡e
ab¨ev`| Avgiv wbwðZ †h Avcbv‡K IB MÖš’ZvwjKv
Avgiv w`‡Z cvi‡ev| Ges AvMvgx Ry‡b Avcbvi
Av‡qvR‡b wbDBq‡K© eB‡gjv †Kgb n‡jv Zvi Lei
ivL‡ev| |